"The title of martyr should be posthumously awarded to the two knights who were stabbed to death by a thief"

After the incident of "knights" Nguyen Hoang Nam (29 years old) and Nguyen Van Thoi (42 years old) being stabbed to death by a group of criminals on the evening of May 13, there were thousands of comments sent in from readers.

They raised many questions: are those who participate in catching criminals treated appropriately? Do the two "knights" who died deserve to be awarded the title of martyrs? Should the model of "knight" clubs be expanded or disbanded? Should Ho Chi Minh City Police establish a 141 force like in Hanoi?

Sharing with reporters, Lieutenant Colonel Dao Trung Hieu, a criminology expert, said that in 2017, the Ministry of Public Security had consulted on the establishment of a Central Crime Prevention Fund. This included regulations on giving a bonus of 5 million VND to individuals and 20 million VND to groups with achievements in crime prevention.

However, there are currently no clear regulations on compensation and support for people who suffer losses in life, health, or property when participating in the fight against crime. Therefore, when losses occur, the application of regulations to support people is still confusing.

"Compared with the Ordinance on preferential treatment for people with meritorious services, I think it is necessary to confirm martyr status for citizens who sacrificed their lives while attacking and arresting criminals, as in the recent case," Mr. Hieu emphasized.

Sharing the same view, many readers also believe that the two "knights" who died while catching robbers deserve to be honored and posthumously awarded the title of martyrs.

"You bravely sacrificed yourself for the people. The state must take responsibility for supporting and providing support for the relatives of the two "knights" who sacrificed. We cannot let your wives, children and families suffer," said a reader.Tomorrowwrite.

Readers use nicknamesThanh peopleComment: "I hope the press will provide clear and specific information about the family circumstances of the "knights", including the two unfortunate ones, so that readers far away can easily contact and support their families. We should join hands to support them because they are doing good deeds. They all work hard to make a living, but their chivalry is noble and deserves our respect and practical actions."

Follow youVu ThanhIf we do not confer titles and take responsibility for these brave "knights", people will continue to maintain indifference to security and order.

"Need to establish interdisciplinary team 141 immediately"

Model 141 (including traffic police, mobile police and criminal police) of Hanoi was launched in August 2011. Immediately after its formation, this special force became the terror of many gangsters carrying weapons and showing signs of violating the law.

More than a year later (December 2012), an online newspaper published an article about the questioning session at the Ho Chi Minh City People's Council on the security and order situation, in which Major General Phan Anh Minh, Deputy Director of the Ho Chi Minh City Police Department, affirmed that "Ho Chi Minh City does not need a 141 force like Hanoi". General Minh said: "In Hanoi, there are too many gangsters ready to fight against law enforcement officers, so there must be a support force. Ho Chi Minh City is not at that level yet, so there is no need for this force".

And today, when two "knights" were stabbed to death by a group of thieves in Saigon, the story of the establishment of force 141 in Ho Chi Minh City was mentioned again by readers when commenting after each article.

ReadersHong LoanHe believes that with the rampant robberies in recent years, Ho Chi Minh City should have established an interdisciplinary team 141 like Hanoi did.

"They are a regular force, well-trained, professional, good at martial arts, and have the power to search and suppress. They make criminals more wary," the female reader commented.

Speak up about the matter,Hungkdwrote: "A question for the leaders of Ho Chi Minh City Police is whether it is time for the city to establish team 141 like in Hanoi." Along with the above topic, a reader with the nick1quatao9shared that living in Ho Chi Minh City is really scary. "We need to immediately establish the 141 interdisciplinary team. Hanoi is already very successful, don't let the people catch robbers for the police", the reader wrote.

Should the "knight" model be maintained or dissolved?

The death of a 29-year-old man who was about to get married and the passing of a 42-year-old father who left behind a young child have saddened many readers. Many questions have been raised about whether clubs operating under the "knight" model should be maintained or dissolved.

Responding to the press on the morning of May 15, Major General Phan Anh Minh, Deputy Director of Ho Chi Minh City Police, said: "Not everyone is qualified to be a "knight". According to him, "knights" must be educated in the law, must understand what they are allowed to do, what the regulations allow them to do differently from ordinary citizens, and what they are equipped with.

According to General Minh's analysis, the "knight" teams need to defend themselves but they are not allowed to use support tools. "Not everyone who wants to become a "knight" is qualified, there must be clear standards and regulations for this. But currently we have nothing," the Deputy Director of Ho Chi Minh City Police shared.

While the readerDiem TranThinking: "Street knights, catching robbers and criminals is not your job...", Master of International Law Pham Thanh Tung frankly said that spontaneous "knight" groups should be eliminated.

"From the perspective of the philosophy of law and social philosophy, the public authority is the only representative force that can use force to protect the people. The participation of the people in society is considered as the people signing a contract to give up the right to use force. The people having to take to the streets to enforce justice is a demonstration of the powerlessness of the authorities," Mr. Tung commented.

Contrary to the above viewpoint, criminologist Dao Trung Hieu encourages and expands the "knight" movement. The lieutenant colonel believes that in the face of complicated developments in the crime situation, the responsibility of protecting a peaceful life cannot be undertaken by just one force, but is the responsibility of the whole society. In particular, each citizen must be a soldier in the front line of protecting security and order.

- On the evening of May 13, a group of nearly ten street "knights" discovered a group of criminals breaking into a SH motorbike on Cach Mang Thang Tam Street (Ward 10, District 3). The "knights" surrounded and arrested the suspects, but they fought back with knives. After the incident, 2 "knights" died, and 3 others had to be hospitalized.

- On May 15, Ho Chi Minh City Police held a press conference and announced that they had arrested two suspects related to the murder case: Nguyen Tan Tai (also known as Tai "Mun", 24 years old, residing in District 12) and Nguyen Hoang Chau Phu (24 years old, residing in Hoc Mon).